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We thought it was coming down on top of us, and two firemen, big, strong guys—and I’m not the smallest guy in the world—they grabbed me under the arm, said, ‘Got to get out of here!’ And they literally lifted me up.”

Was she President at the time?

It’s been a while since I’ve seen South Park, but aside from their religious stuff, their humour, or attempts thereof, strikes me as either right-wing, lame, or both.

What do they think of US invasion and occupation of Iraq?

wp:Talk:South Park Republican#Pushing Republican Views

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Yes they certainly do. Is everyone forgetting what Kyle says at the end of the Bin Laden episode? “America may have its problems, but it’s our home, and if you’re not gonna root for your home team, you might as well get the hell out of the stadium.”

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Another thing, Bush has been shown a few times on the show. Normally when Bush appear in a popular cartoon, he is made fun of for his incredible stupidity. Bush has NEVER BEEN MADE FN OF ON SOUTH PARK. They rarely give him lines, and when he does speak, Parker and Stone do not make him say anything stupid. This is implicitly pushing a Republican viewpoint on the audience and makes them believe Bush really isn’t all that bad when it is historical fact that he is hands-down the worst American president ever.

Now that’s a decent counter-argument.

and Stalin and Mao combined murdered over 100 million or some similar figure, so if you like either, you’re worse than a Nazi.

I do not. Wtf

good to know. 😁 🙂

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That’s not the same as mass murder.

The how would you call letting millions die of hunger and sickness willingly? According you your logic Hitler was also not responsible for mass murder, he let others do the work for him. This is fucking bullshit.

One might be able to say the same about the leader of any developed country with a GDP of over $1 trillion, or maybe one of our alleged “trillionaires” such as Musk.

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Did he murder 6 million of them?

Is that a baseline to let it count?

If you’re going to compare Trump, or anyone else, with Hitler, I’d say so.

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He did help kill ~80% of all Palestinians in Gaza,

How many Gazans are there?

WP says about 2 million.

80% of that is 1.6 million.

I don’t think that Trump or the Israeli leaders combined killed that number.

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Me: “This is an apple.” You: “But that is also an apple.” yes it is mate. Both are apples. What is your point?

IIUC, we’re arguing quantity more than quality.

This is an apple, and this is 10 apples: which would you rather have?

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Maybe ask those in ICE concentration camps if they would like some junk food instead of forced hunger.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t think it’s Nayib Bukele intention is to exterminate a population with a disproportionately large number, if not a majority of, gangsters and other criminals. I’m sure he’s content to keep them there for decades, if necessary; though I get the feeling that most will be released in several years or a few decades. (Also, Jews and other concentration camp victims didn’t cause Germany to have a murder rate of about 100:100 000 a year).

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Dude, defending Trump works on Twitter, you’re on the wrong platform here mate. You make no sense with your arguments. The more I read the worse it gets. I’m not going to continue arguing with this nonsense.

I’m no more defending Trump than you’re defending Hitler.

Trump is a bad man, but Hitler was worse; and that, to some here, it seems, is a controversial statement.

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Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Trump less evil.

Now what if I re-wrote that:

Just because the ratios of deaths are not exactly the same among amount of deaths doesn’t make Hitler more evil.

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He opened concentration camps,

Where? Do they have gas chambers?

and before you cite the US prison-industrial-complex, that existed long before Trump. Indeed, before that, they had slavery. In fact a few Presidents owned slaves. Jefferson, cited by many in a positive way, owned slaves and probably fucked, i.e. in his case raped, a few of them.

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he endorses crimes against humanity and war crimes including famine, genocide and torture,

a lot of people endorsed it, including Dubya Bush, who seems to be becoming an ally-of-sorts with a few anti-Trumpers.

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he kidnapped a nation’s leader,

a bad leader at that, but Papa Bush got Noriega.

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Hitler wasn’t known to sexually abuse kids.

FWIW,

Sally Hemings: the woman Jefferson kept as a slave, as well, IIUC, a few hundred other people.

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So maybe Trump is worse than Hitler, maybe it’s comparing apples with pears.

I’d say an apple and a pear to 10 apples and 10 pears.

Look, I’m not defending Hitler here or anywhere,

I’m not saying that you are, and sorry if I somehow implied it.

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That said, Hitler committed suicide soon after turning 56, and Trump is 24 years older than that; or conversely, Trump turned 56 in 2002, just before Bush decided to invade Iraq.

Even then, I don’t think Hitler was more competent.

Hitler opened up 2 fronts. That was stupid.

Hitler declared war on the US, which gave FDR the reason/excuse to pommel Nazi Germany.

Mussolini, another idiot, did the same.

Meanwhile.

IIUC, wp:Francisco Franco declared war on no country and lived to be 82.

Will an American walk the Moon again before this decade ends?

Will any person of another nationality walk the Moon before the first half of this century ends?

It’s kind of a slow race, IMO.

and Stalin and Mao combined murdered over 100 million or some similar figure, so if you like either, you’re worse than a Nazi.

(/s—kinda)

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Currently Trump is responsible for roughly 1 million deaths this year alone by just cutting USAID.

That’s not the same as mass murder.

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Next to that they have been murdering fishermen in the Caribbean,

Did he murder 6 million of them?

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bombed Iran and 6 other countries

Did he kill over 20% of the Iranian population as Hitler did to Poland?

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and increased poverty in the US and made health care in the US out of reach for more of its inhabitants, as well as medication.

Communism increased the poverty of the Soviet Union and China each for at least a decade.

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Next to that regulations for food safely and pollution have been loosened, which will have a negative impact on health. This will result in many national deaths over the coming years. Then there is the thing with vaccines, reduced funding for the CDC and other vital departments responsible for preventing disease outbreak.

I’m sure those in Auschwitz would have loved to have American junk food.

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The estimates for the amount of deaths from cutting USAID for over 10 years are between 10 and 15 million, with more casualties in the years after,

But is the US stopping those countries from feeding themselves and the like?

IIUC, some of these countries suffer because of their own governments.

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so Trump is on a path of surpassing Hitler when it comes to death count based on this alone.

a long path, IMO.

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Oh and don’t forget how he supplies and supports Israel in the genocide of Palestine, and the other illegal wars Israel is currently involved in.

Did Israel murder 6 million Palestinians, or even a 10th of that?

Arguably Hitler, in the minds of many Jews, made Zionism necessary: it’s not like the Muslim world and Communists offered a better more practical alternative; ergo Hitler is kind of to blame for the suffering of Palestinians.

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Oh and don’t forget the concentration camps from ICE, in El Salvador and African countries where a mysterious amount of people are secretly dying.

IIUC, those Salvadoran detention camps are are a creation of wp:Nayib Bukele who IIUC is a Salvadoran of Palestinian descent, once self-described as a “radical leftist” and may be either a Christian or Muslim.

IIUC, a few years ago El Salvador had the highest murder rate of any country, and after he took over, he essentially imprisoned about 2% of El Salvador’s male population, and now that rate has fallen perhaps to US levels or lower.

As for the death toll, again it’s a small fraction, perhaps a tiny fraction, of the Holocaust.

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(Angela of Parkrose Permaculture says similar, and I also disagree with her on that.)

*sorry about the misquote, folks.

Hitler killed himself several days after his 56th birthday.

They’re obsessed with transgender.

The hardest people to deal with.

FWIW,

$40 trillion ÷ (330 million Americans x 75%) =

about $161 616.17 per American

Will Trump make an executive order claiming that the Moon is America’s?

It was won in 1969.

I never signed up to Facebook and I’m not using YouTube this month.

(still, I’ll give you an upvote :)

IIUC, the last years of the USSR, and the 1990s, had relatively low world oil prices.

Didn’t he have Russia leave the USSR.